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Max713




PostSubject: Discussion II   Fri May 22, 2009 12:27 pm

Does peace demand fighting?

Would it take a utopia to solve all of the problems?

Is it worth while to fight for something you believe in?

In the end, are we our own worst enemy?

If you try hard enough to defeat something, can you overcome it?

The only way to defeat the enemy is to join the enemy.

Your best friend is your own enemy.

Mental vs. Physical Intimidation

Is ignorance bliss?

Are you responsible for yourself?

"All men are enemies, all animals are comrades."

The animals are communist and rebellion is bound to happen.

Does utopia bring satisfaction?
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion II   Tue May 26, 2009 10:49 pm

There is no peace without bloodshed because as humans still inhabit this planet some will always want to discriminate others.

A perfect world, a perfect utopia, isinít that what mankind is striving for? Our everlasting improvements on past inventions trying to perfect our lives, lifestyles and tools. But is this really gonna change antything because as humans we cannot be perfect and when you try to force something not perfect into a perfect world there is no good conclusion.

If you believe in something and don't fight for it you've just wasted your life as there is no victory without saacrifice.

In order to destroy the enemy you go within it and find his weakness thus allowing you to become unstopalble with such a power.

No utopia brings happiness and is self defeating. However benevolent it ends it shall never bring true happiness. If you want an example read "The Giver".
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suqarkissesx0




PostSubject: Re: Discussion II   Wed May 27, 2009 8:29 am

Does peace demand fighting?
At times, peace does demand fighting. For example, if a country is trying to destroy our country and we dont fight back, they'll see us as weak. If the other country thinks we're weak, we will keep on getting attacked. This is why sometimes e have to fight back in order to stop the madness and bring peace.

Would it take a utopia to solve all of the problems?
A utopia doesnt really solve all problems, it just hides the problems but they are still there though.

The only way to defeat the enemy is to join the enemy.
I agree to this because people say you should keep your enemies closer. If you join your enemy you could find out their weaknesses and later on destroy your enemy.

Your best friend is your own enemy.
In most cases, because a best friend can sometimes try to bring you down or make herself better than you.

Does utopia bring satisfaction?
A utopia doesnt bring satisfaction , & like ricardo said, an example is The Giver. The main character of that book tries to get away from the utopian region he lives in.
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Dameiby1




PostSubject: discussion II   Wed May 27, 2009 8:47 am

Does peace demand fighting? Not all space demands fighting, however in this occasion that this space was gained through fighting naturally it would lead to more fighting, especially considering the moment in history that is being portrayed in the story.

Would it take a utopia to solve all of the problems?
It will not take a utopia, but the exact opposite, a more liberal place with no selfish pigs, or a demanding Joseph Stalin fighting against Leon Trotsky.

In the end, are we our own worst enemy? yes, the animal have proved that point, getting rid of the animals wasn't the most challenging event, the biggest challenge is coming up, fighting their pears the abusive pigs.
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Mamadou-Bah




PostSubject: Re: Discussion II   Fri May 29, 2009 8:17 am

[quote="Max713"]

Does peace demand fighting?
Sometimes peace demands fighting because sometimes people try to disrupt peace and you either need to talk to them or teach them a lesson o they won't do it again.

Would it take a utopia to solve all of the problems?
I believe a utopia would actually not solve problems it would actually make things worst because people can not be treated the same because not everyone is the same and can be treated the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion II   Fri May 29, 2009 8:45 am

Does peace demand fighting?
- Sometimes piece requires fighting. for instance, the United State has been looking for piece and in order for them to gain piece they need to fight for it.

Would it take a utopia to solve all of the problems?
- It would take beyond an Utopia to solve all the problems. there is always going to be certain people who is going to mess everything up for others.

Is it worth while to fight for something you believe in?
- I believe is worth while fighting for what you believe in. if you don't fight for what you believe you have lot to loose in this world.

In the end, are we our own worst enemy?
- sometimes we are our own enemies because we contradict ourselves. but sometimes your best friends are your enemy.

If you try hard enough to defeat something, can you overcome it?
- no, you will become a slave trying to over defeat it, and you probably don't become to defeat it.

The only way to defeat the enemy is to join the enemy.
- i agree with this quotes, just like the quotes say "stay close to your friend but closer to enemies".

Your best friend is your own enemy.
- Sometimes your best friend betray you and they become your worst enemy.

Mental vs. Physical Intimidation
i prefer mental intimidation that does not harms me at all. but physical intimidation could mess up your face.

Is ignorance bliss?
- yes because you can't live your life pretending that you don't know or don't want to know the truth of something

Are you responsible for yourself?
- yes you are, because if you don't take measures of yourself no body will. in todays world no body could be trusted.

"All men are enemies, all animals are comrades."
- Men is your own enemy , your enemy always come in beautiful colors. Animals are not Comrades because they kill their own species to fed them self. in reality we are all the same.

The animals are communist and rebellion is bound to happen.
- Rebellion is about to happen because the animals are just like human they just look up upon each other.

Does utopia bring satisfaction?
- No, because if you have to much of something your going to get bored or tired of it. for instance, you could have the most expensive day in the year and then the minute you take the grease burger of McDonald your going to fall in love with it because their are not use to them.
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qenesis




PostSubject: Re: Discussion II   Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:51 pm

I agree with this quote. In an effort to be free you have to defeat the enemy. Until you defeat the enemy or any other person you have to defeat and fight with some one so that people could be afraid of you. or at least so that no one else messes with you .

A utopia wouldn't solve any problems. Is just an easier way to break away from reality. Is like is easier to pretend to be perfect than to actually try to solve the problems that you really have.

For the most part you should fight for what you believe in. However you must be one hundred and ten percent sure because many times we argue and defend people, but later on we realize that is not what we would had expected.

I agree that we are worst enemy, because we are the only ones that really know each other. For example when some one commits a crime, and they leave there DNA begin, they get themselves in trouble. So basically you are the only person who really knows the REAL you.

I agree because in order to defeat the enemy you must think and act like the enemy. The only thing is that you have to always be one step ahead of your enemy.

Many times when you try to over come something or someone sometimes you don't even overcome it. Other times you end up like the thing that you are trying to overcome. In the novel, Animal Farm, the animals try so hard to overcome humans, but in the end they ended up just like humans.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion II   Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:52 pm

I agree with this quote. In an effort to be free you have to defeat the enemy. Until you defeat the enemy or any other person you have to defeat and fight with some one so that people could be afraid of you. or at least so that no one else messes with you .

A utopia wouldn't solve any problems. Is just an easier way to break away from reality. Is like is easier to pretend to be perfect than to actually try to solve the problems that you really have.

For the most part you should fight for what you believe in. However you must be one hundred and ten percent sure because many times we argue and defend people, but later on we realize that is not what we would had expected.

I agree that we are worst enemy, because we are the only ones that really know each other. For example when some one commits a crime, and they leave there DNA begin, they get themselves in trouble. So basically you are the only person who really knows the REAL you.

I agree because in order to defeat the enemy you must think and act like the enemy. The only thing is that you have to always be one step ahead of your enemy.

Many times when you try to over come something or someone sometimes you don't even overcome it. Other times you end up like the thing that you are trying to overcome. In the novel, Animal Farm, the animals try so hard to overcome humans, but in the end they ended up just like humans.
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